My S1 Sud Ti

[KevJTD]

coming along nicely kev

cheers col, nice to see you over here mate

got a way to go to be as good as yours bud, but hopefully next spring we can get a good sud gathering organised and see how many S1 cars we can get together

[sudboy1490]

nice to be here eventually kev, id heard there was another site up and running but hadn't been able to find it too easily. Not bothered with the forums too much since most people left AO, one goodun to come along lately is keith with the orange sud. Thats well worth a look mate, hopefully next year we can get them all together !!!!

[Kegsti66]

I am all for that Colin. I am here as well. Good to see you here.
I will finish the thread I started.
There are a few more here to follow and keep you interested.
Mine has gone into hibernation tonight. Tax expired today

[KevJTD]

nice to be here eventually kev, id heard there was another site up and running but hadn't been able to find it too easily. Not bothered with the forums too much since most people left AO, one goodun to come along lately is keith with the orange sud. Thats well worth a look mate, hopefully next year we can get them all together !!!!

yes mate, kieths car looks a cracker too.

be nice to see you guys at our next pint and pizza night....know it's a fair old trek but easy access from the A1, and the pizza's are good

http://classicalfaforum.co.uk/forum/vie ... f=36&t=542

[KevJTD]

the progress continues, slightly. know that the car will be finished by next spring and that's about 6 months away but time will pass so fast so need to keep ticking along despite the weather and my usual issues with driveway rsetorations.....

with johns help and encouragement we sorted a few wiring connections issues yesterday. headlights didn't seem to want to do much when i last tried it so knew there was some searching to do. after a bit of head scratching and tracing of stuff one of the realys was found to not be doing it's job. quite a strange way of the lights to work really as the switch at the steering wheel doesn't have a position for dim or dip, just clicks a contact.
when the lights are switched on a realy energizes the headlapm realy which has a rocker mechanism in it, so every time you pull the switch it changes from dip to main.
lots of stuff seems overly complicated really.

like the rad fan switch. the switch in the rad simply provides an earth when it gets to temp which triggers a relay to provide power to the fan itself. a more usual way to do it is for the power to be supplied to the rad switch with the other contact simply supplying power to the fan when up to temp.

i sorted a few more connections out so i know now where everything goes, indicators etc. also tested a wiper motor, the heater motor, horn etc.
hazard switch didn't seem to want to play ball but now is ok after a bit of cleaning, may not have been called into use for some time!

took the wiring loom out today so all the connections can be changed, no small task as there are quite a few! did this on VJM and it proved worthwhile as things actually worked without needing to jiggle contacts

i've made a start on the loom that runs through the car to the rear lights. these aren't the worst but they still look cruddy and slightly corroded so worth doing to make sure of good contact.
the old connections are chopped off, wiring checked for any signs of corrosion and tested for resistance before new terminals are crimped and soldered into place.
takes a while but will be worth it in the long run as hopefully things won't be made to "wake up" every spring after being stood up over the winter
did the rear light units too so won't be any junctions with new against old.
i've also decided to add an extra earth circuit instead of relying on the earth through the light mounting lugs for a bit more of a reliable service

i'll carry on with the loom and get everything ready to refit it at the end of the month when i've a few days off and plan to make some more progress.

lastly a tip for anyone with faded trim on the front edge of the dash lower parcel shelf. i knew this was the saem stuff as what i put around my windscreen rubber so had ordered a bit extra, slides in a treat and has brightenned it up nicely

[vecchioalfa]

Nice work mate, typical Italian electrics really....
My loom will need the same work I think, where did you get the spade connectors from, they look very good quality ones mate.

[KevJTD]

this sort of thing is what you need mate, just make sure that whichever you buy has the little tag on it so that when you push them back into the housing they click into place

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221527000409? ... EBIDX%3AIT

[rsfruitbat]

Oustanding work as always Kev.

rsfruitbat

[Johnboy]

A labour of love. Or maybe your just crazy great job chap

[KevJTD]

been doing a bit more to the wiring, got the loom from under the dash connector through to the rear lights sorted....that was the easy one
ran a new earth cable to the rear stuff too to aid the rear ligth earthing which usually relies on contact through the mounts to the body. a proper earth wire will solve any future poor connections.

think i've finally solved where everything goes in the rest too, well almost everything...

still a few bits to trace but easy enough with the loom out of the car and laid out in the shed

stuff isn't quite how the wiring diagrams read though but gives enough of a guide. tracing them through helps.

[Kegsti66]

Hi Kev, Just having another read through your thread, going back to the screens, my first sud, a 5m was a 1977 on a "R" plate. That had a bonded screen with full width stainless trim.
Another thing I was told about, was "in the day" a Hillman Avenger screen rubber was a good fit in the sud aperture. It also allowed a chrome trim to be fitted. I have to say, I can not verify this but someone else may know more.

My screen was bonded in by a pro so he dealt with the mess.
Just received a spare ti and script boot badge in the post today, good old ebay. £2.50, only bidder..... Result !!
Love the silver you chose. I can't wait till next year if we can get a load together as we all seem to have different coloured cars and they will look great.

[KevJTD]

bah!!!

wish i'd have seen that boot badge, there'd have been a bidding war between us mate!

well done, looking forward to next spring myself so we can compare things

the screen thing was an issue but i'm reasonably happy with the outcome although it's not set in stone and could be changed for a bonded one in the future if a full width stainless surround becomes available. for now though it will do

[KevJTD]

did a little bit to the wiring loom yesterday but was busy with other stuff......bsb season has finsihed now so not so many excuses to come

the fuse box is always a worrying one to strip down as there are wires all over the place, and not at all as it left the factory so following the wiring diagrams doesn't always clear things up.
eventually all wires were traced and notes made so the fusebox & associated relays were stripped down ready for the new terminals to be crimped and soldered into place. towards 50 terminals to replace just on this little corner of the loom, not sure how many in total i will end up changing but bet it's over 200....

the fusebox got a blast with the shotblast gun to clean off a bit of corrosion although it wasn't that bad really.

decided to add heat shrink to all the connections too as an added bit of security, helps to insulate in what becomes a tight area and provides a bit of stability to the soldered joint, as well as keeping damp out.

despite the precautions i still managed to fox myself on one connection....will need to study it some more to find/remember what is supposed to happen but i have a spare greay/black trace wire which leads up to the choke cable switch, not sure now where it came from around the fusebox area and no trace of it being connected in the pics i took, but it needs to go somewhere...

also another oddity which had actually been changed at some point.
the wire from the alternator that runs up to the dash for the warning light originally makes a detour down to the reverse light switch....know the reverse switch would be on an ignition circuit but very odd that it ran off the alternator wiring?
i'll make it run through a bit more of a conventional route.

[vecchioalfa]

Nice work mate, all adds up to having much less chance of any electrical gremlins when she's all back together

[Kegsti66]

Nice one Kev it looks nice and tidy

[PETROLHEAD]

Have you got a pile of decent fuses at the ready kev?

Those old torpedoes are terribly unreliable, but i havent seen any new old stock for a while

Anything up your sleeve mate?

[KevJTD]

Have you got a pile of decent fuses at the ready kev?

Those old torpedoes are terribly unreliable, but i havent seen any new old stock for a while

Anything up your sleeve mate?

loads mate, loads

[KevJTD]

a great night out last night at the pint & pizza do, nice to chat with john & john to get some stories and details on the history of suds.

best outcome for me though was the solving of the heater box ducting mystery that'd been plaguing us for a little while

the heater box that i refurbed had a smaller outlet for the ducting that goes towards the dash, smaller than all the later heaters anyway. so that meant the ducting pipe we had was too big.....left a gap at the heater and just looked naff. could have made an adapter plate but knew it shouldn't need it. having searched through up to 10 other ones we had in stock no combination made sense. all the boxes with 2 cables (early heaters) had the small outlet, later 3 cable ones had the bigger outlet....we assumed there must be another type of duct that taperred...

spoke to justsuds john about this at cadwell the other week in the hope he could find a solution....

this little detail that he brought last night is as important to me as any other part, thanks a bunch mate for taking the trouble to seek it out for me

[vecchioalfa]

Its amazing how there are so many slight differences in some parts?! I can't imagine what it must have been like at the factory..... piles of parts lying around none of which would fit together.... Pleased you got it sorted

[Alfasam]

Love reading the restoration thread updates on CAF. The work being done to resurrect and save series 1 Ti's in the UK is nothing short of heroic in my humble opinion.
The resourcefulness and courage to tackle head-on what can only be described as near terminal corrosion in some of the cars featured is quite something to behold. Lesser men would have run for the hills on first sight!
A quick question for Kev if I may: could you please advise which Woolies product code has been purchased to replace the front screen and parcel shelf decorative chrome strips and what quantity in meters is required to complete the work described.
I will keep watching the various restorations on CAF with great interest, with a view to learning as much as I can from the experts.

[PETROLHEAD]

Thats what we're all about here Sam, and i'm glad you are enjoying it on CAF.

dediacted to the core, immensely passionate , and always with a sense of humour,

Perfect!


ooh, and some lovely cars too!

[KevJTD]

Love reading the restoration thread updates on CAF. The work being done to resurrect and save series 1 Ti's in the UK is nothing short of heroic in my humble opinion.
The resourcefulness and courage to tackle head-on what can only be described as near terminal corrosion in some of the cars featured is quite something to behold. Lesser men would have run for the hills on first sight!
A quick question for Kev if I may: could you please advise which Woolies product code has been purchased to replace the front screen and parcel shelf decorative chrome strips and what quantity in meters is required to complete the work described.
I will keep watching the various restorations on CAF with great interest, with a view to learning as much as I can from the experts.

thanks bud, glad you are enjoying the threads and taking a little encouragement to tackle jobs however small they may be, they are all worthwhile

the trim from woolies is thios stuff

http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/p-1763-ch ... nsert.aspx

if the link doesn't work then from their website (woolies trim in a google search will find them) search under "seals", then "screen section"
you need to go to page two, the last item is what you need, part number R1181-F priced at £2-50 per metre

not sure at the mo how many metres you need but i will check, my chip butty is just done

[KevJTD]

can't find the recipet at the moment mate, think it's still in the sud with the remaining bit in the packaging.....will find out for sure in the week for you.

seem to remember it being 5 or 6 metres but i know from my paypal invoice that it came to £17-48ish inc UK postage so guess you could work it from that

[Toad of Toad Hall]

bah!!!

wish i'd have seen that boot badge, there'd have been a bidding war between us mate!

well done, looking forward to next spring myself so we can compare things

the screen thing was an issue but i'm reasonably happy with the outcome although it's not set in stone and could be changed for a bonded one in the future if a full width stainless surround becomes available. for now though it will do

Kev,

Just found an 'Alfasud' script like that in the garage on my big parts clear out ! You're welcome to have it if you still need it. drop me a PM and I'll get it in the post to you.

[KevJTD]

bah!!!

wish i'd have seen that boot badge, there'd have been a bidding war between us mate!

well done, looking forward to next spring myself so we can compare things

the screen thing was an issue but i'm reasonably happy with the outcome although it's not set in stone and could be changed for a bonded one in the future if a full width stainless surround becomes available. for now though it will do

Kev,

Just found an 'Alfasud' script like that in the garage on my big parts clear out ! You're welcome to have it if you still need it. drop me a PM and I'll get it in the post to you.

thanks for the offer mate, and nice to hear from you again , but i've got the alfasud script boot badge thanks. it was the ti one that i was missing although i've shelved that plan for the moment due to actually wondering if my '76 car ever had one...

[KevJTD]

finally, the wiring loom is ready to go back in the car. all the terminals have been chopped off and replaced with crimped and soldered ones. new earth points have been added so nothing relies on being earthed through it's own mountings anymore. some alterations that had been made over the years have been sorted out. some wires that had become dangerously worn through have been replaced. some that had very bad internal corrosion to the core have been cut right back withing the loom and changed, particularly the connections around the headlamps/indicators etc that get the worst of the weather.

i've decided to wrap the loom with the fabric/cloth look loom tape rather than the shiny black stuff for more of a period look. know that they weren't originally wrapped but this one is (was) in such a state having been covered in thick black underseal years back that it's been near impossible to get spotless again although it's not bad now. plus the corrections etc, so will look better wrapped.

one thing though if any of you S1 owners can help me with......i've got an un-accounted for wire in the engine bay loom part, the section that has the oil light & water connections on.
the wire in question is a blue with black trace and is an ignition fed wire. i assumed it would be for a fuel cut-off solenoid on the carb but can find no such part on my carb, or the spare i have, or on the wring diagrams...
any ideas guys?

[vecchioalfa]

I plan to get my loom done in the next few weeks so might be able to shed some light on it then if you've not got to the bottom of it before then

[Bluesuit]

Kev, I see what you mean about the script, looking at various pictures many have Ti but some don't. Is the script mounted through holes in the boot lid or is it self adhesive? If so, does the separate Ti bit have a mounting hole?

[Kegsti66]

Ti script has holes in boot lid as does the Alfasud one.
It appears that if it has ti on the boot, it doesn't have the stickers at the top of the quarter panel. 1976 seems to be the year of change.

[sudboy1490]

hi kev that wire your talking about is for the n/s/f indicator, the o/s/f is solid blue..

There's a blue wire with a white flash on the engine wiring but not blue black mate..

hope this helps, col