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Hi all.

I got this car off Shrew a week or so back, some may recall it being offered on here a while back looking for a new owner, eventually it found me!
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Deal was done as is so often the case, unseen in the flesh or even on picture so I didn't really expect too much.
Said to be a non runner with a poorly fuel pump and some welding needed to the boot floor/inner arches.
Non running is sortable so no drama, rust though I expected to see rear arches with severe bubbles if not bits missing, a lot of 155's suffer with rot in the rear arch which travels into the boot floor area. Indeed my old Lancia Dedra turbo that my friend Jim now owns had a few blisters come through that turned into a reconstruction of much of the rear end, the Dedra & 155 sharing the same arch etc, if not pretty much the whole car!

Glad to say though that on arrival on the trailer it wasn't half as bad as I imagined it would be.
Pulling out all the bits from the boot which had already handily been removed revealed that it's not at all bad, shouldn't be too much of an issue....when I can find the time!
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Interior in fine shape, should make a nice car.
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Managed to find some time on Saturday evening to have a look at the pump issue. No electricity reaching it so a fiddle with the pump relay, fuses and ECU connections restored power. Happy to report that after a bit of spluutering it fired into life :D

Quickly followed by being turned off as a nice mist of fuel was making the back of the engine pretty damp from a leaky return pipe!

Inside the arch doesn't look too bad, most of that holed part will be chopped out when the time comes, just will be a while before it does come around to it!
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Good luck as usual. Hope you do not need it :D

The wheels look rather retro with that tyre tread. Will make the steering sharp and reduce road noise ! :lol:

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You sound surprised i didnt stitch you up with a pup! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Just thought you may be trying to get me back for something mate, know we tend to shift our unwanted bits between ourselves :D

More than happy with it, another one to look forward to getting going..
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Aah,

Revenge for the pile in my workshop eh! :P

No mate, never. It may have been well cherry picked now, and it, i, you have contributed towards many interesting cars and people, so no worries there.

Glad it's found a good home, it would only deteriorate sat in the paddock and become tougher to restore.

All that remains is for you to change your name to King J and it would be perfect! :D
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Been waiting for some time to tackle the rust on the 155, this afternoon I got chance to make a start.

Passenger side got the vote to be tackled first, rot wasn't evident all the way along to start with, until a bit of digging showed corroded seams all the way to the seat belt anchorage so the grinder soon made a nice wide channel to fresh steel.
Boot bit didn't go too far over towards the middle so quite a simple thing to repair.
Just got to make up some bumper mounts, not unlike the integrale ones funnily enough, plus box in the lower portion of the rear quarter, where all the water has been getting in and causing all the issues!

Aiming for this to be a quick repair, simple plates, primed/seam sealed then stoneguard and some paint. Nothing more drastic.
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Nice work done there my friend.
Looks good and strong now. Just shows what is hidden until you start poking around.

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Passenger side about done now, solid mount made for the side bumper mount to slide into, very similar set up to the integrale so feels familiar!

Had to repair the inner arch up to the door shut, seams had come away leaving a nice gap where the water had got in, causing all the rot.
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New years day so up to do some more welding :)

drivers side had more rot really than the passenger side, also complications of the filler neck and side vent to get around
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rot didn't go too far back luckily enough, gladly it's soon solid metal so welding isn't like trying to stitch a wet paper bag!
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first job was at the back end to make a plate for the boot floor
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then the job to make the opening for the side vent complete with rolled flange so the clips get the correct purchase to hold the vent in place
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section to the inner arch was next, boot floor needed extending out too as the gap was too wide
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section at the front near the seat belt mount needs chopping out then the outer arch will get boxed in along with the back of the filler neck hole. last job to make up a bumper mount.
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I have owned two 155 1.8 16v widetracks and loved them both. The only criticism I would make is that the ride was firm, which is OK, but a bit on the harsh side and the roads in my home town of Penarth are diabolical. The first 155 was a good few years ago now and so did not have any rot issues. I only sold the second one about a year ago on e-bay as it had rot in the rear seems just like yours and the inner arch around the filler pipe would have been particularly difficult to fabricate and weld due to limited access. It was running well at 145000 miles but I decided reluctantly to let it go due to lack of time and space with six other cars to care for.
I enjoy all your posts Kev, but especially this restoration. Keep up the excellent work.
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Penarth.....
We used to go to the Millennium Stadium every year for the Speedway GP and then camp at Penarth, grassy field overlooking the Sea, guy on site used to take us into town and drop us within spitting distance of the stadium on the Saturday morning for £10. Off into the old Cardiff Arms park for a pint or two of Brains then the racing started about tea time. A few bars afterwards then taxi back to the tent.
Had many a Sunday morning nursing a sore head sat on the rocks at the seafront, mainly to get out of the stench in the tent!

Cheers for the praise too mate ;)
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Finally got around to welding the tow bracket back to the chassis rail, after repairing the chassis rail!
All welding done on it now, at least the rear end, assuming nothing nearer the front!
Bumper fits well now, all holes sorted and adjusters work to find the sweet spot for aligning.

Seam sealed all the welds tonight so next week I'll get some stoneguard on it all then paint it the week after.
Can then refit the fuel tank and get it mobile again.
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Cracking!
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with everything going on I've neglected the 155 a bit, seems it was back in Feb that I last did anything....

so with a couple of hours spare tonight I set about making myself more work :roll:

there is a patch of rust on the rear subframe that needed welding, I could have done it in situ but I then spotted an other bit further around which wouldn't have been so easy.


as the tank is out it's only the hand-brake cables and pipes to disconnect then 4 bolts and the whole thing comes down, seems childish not to attend to it whilst access so easy ;)


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the rest of the frame just has surface rust so i'll clean it, treat it then soak it in waxoyl once I've replaced all the brake pipes
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need to get the car mobile again, it's sat on stands for too long...
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That looks a big chunk of car Kev.
So much for taking things easier mate.

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I hear you mate, I need to be sensible and not fall into the same trap as before...

but I also need to get things done. :)

the frame won't take much repairing then i'll make some new brake pipes up whilst it's easy to get at, then brush some thick tetroseal all over the frame to keep it solid.

at least I have convinced myself I don't need to strip the whole rear frame apart, get it blasted and painted etc... :D
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I welded up the rear subframe mount at the weekend then gave it a coat of paint.

Got all the new brake pipes fitted today..

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The rear inner arches I'd stoneguarded last week, now that has all dried off nicely and I've found time I brush painted all the arches and the parts I welded earlier in the year. This enamel paint is easy to slap on with a 50mm brush and allows a really good layer to go on, as well as over yourself!

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As you can see I have also given the inner repairs a good dose of the black paint too, all the better for keeping moisture at bay.

One more step closer to another one being done...
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Got the rear axle fitted this afternoon. $ bolts hold it against the chassis rails. On my own so thought it'd be a bit wobbly on trolley jacks so came up with a solution...

2 old bolts had their heads chopped off and got welded to some threaded bar...these were then inserted into diagonal corners in the chassis which made great guides as the axle got jacked up, then insert the 2 normal bolts then take out the guide studs, simple!
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Bit of angled section used to keep things in line as they are welded...

Fuel tank all back on now complete with refurbished straps so we're getting there....

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Moving it along nicely Kev.
Will you keep the car for a bit or just sell it?
You deserve to benefit a bit of pleasure for all your work. ;)

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Not sure at this point Keith what I'll do with it, quite tempted to just keep it as I've never had a 155, had a few Lancia Dedras' which is basically the same so be nice to try the 155 for comparison.

Had the afternoon up at the unit today rather than the integrale, this chopping and changing venues and cars is getting me all confused! Have to try and think which tools and equipment will be required where! Luckily I seem to have got enough of most things to not drag loads of stuff around, once I leave Jims' place and get everything together it should solve that little issue.


The exhaust was previously held up with bits of rope, the original hangers having been discarded when the powerflow one went on I guess, the mounts they used were tiny and far too weak to hold it all up.
Much more secure now and should last for years to come.


Rear hanger had a tiny little half moon that looked like it'd struggle with a Morris Minor let alone a big rear box like this!

Can't recall where or what this one fits, tempted to say Renault Clio but it's not quite the one....anyway, it'll last years now.
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It does fit the bumper cut-out nicely though.

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With the exhaust now secure a freshly charged battery went on as the car hasn't been started for 6 months or more.
I'd emptied the fuel tank of all the old petrol when it was off so 3 gallons of fresh super unleaded went in so ready to start...……..cranking but no fuel......sounds familiar!
I'd had the same issues last year when I got it, fiddling with the relay and connections got it going back then.
A bit more testing and sure enough there was no power to the pump again.
The relay and associated wiring I'll trace through to find where the bad connection or broken wire is sometime, that will be fun, but for now a spare battery in the boot supplying a 12V feed to the pump and it started pretty much on the button.

Exhaust doesn't sound anything like as loud as I remembered, may even be tempted to leave it in..It has no centre silencer just the rear one but having a Cat too means it's not too excessive, quite a nice burble actually.

Bit more socialising with the old guys on other units who keep popping in for a chat (no wonder progress stops and starts!) then what to do next..


Decided to end the afternoon with some bodywork.


The passenger outer arch had a few crusty bits but nothing too serious, managed to get it all filled, sanded and primed before having an early finish about 6-30. One of those afternoons that seem like you've not got much done, but have ticked some good boxes.


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With the week coming to an end and the weather predicted to finally get back to normal British weather I took the opportunity to flat off the primer this morning and do my usual rattle can spray job. Basecoat and lacquer this time, for which I managed to make the stupid mistake of running out at just the wrong point....compounded by shaking the can to get the last few inches done and overloading as it came in a big splurge with a lovely run to remind me!


I'll probably go up there next Saturday afternoon and start refitting the bumper and interior trim. Fuel pump wiring fault to trace then I can start thinking about going through it for an MoT….
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You do a great job with those cans mate.
She will be looking clean and tidy very soon.
Top work. :D

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Nearly didn't go up to the unit this afternoon, work this morning then home for dinner and sat watching TV with the dog....could have easily stayed there all day :) Managed to drag myself up there by half 4 so didn't hold much hope of getting a lot done..


Started off by sorting out the rear bumper and getting it fitted back on.
Rear undertray next which thankfully I'd managed to get all the mount points sorted so easy enough.
Rear arch covers that fill in the bumper end gap needed some fettling as that is the area where I'd done loads of reconstruction, a plastic support made up and fitted to save getting the welder out...
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With all the back end back together the tyres got pumped up and wheels back on...

Time to trace the wiring fault for the fuel pump.

Now, I had been giving this some research using my integrale manual to trace where the wiring goes, bound to be similar?
The Lancia wiring shows the earth for the pump goes through the inertia fuel cut-off switch so reasonable to assume the 155 may be similar.
On looking at the car though something stood out, the main earth cable at the back panel I'd removed to get the wiring out of the way for welding, it hadn't been put back on.....surely not...
A check with the circuit tester and sure enough the fuel pump earth was amongst the 5 or 6 earths at that point.....my assumption of lack of voltage when measured at the plug was actually a lack of earth! Numptie :roll:

Cables reconnected, battery refitted and key turned....pump primed the couple of seconds as it should.....car starts on the key instantly!

Lesson learned, again (to be forgotten as quickly!), don't ignore the obvious!!


Decided it was about time the car saw the light of day again so outside in the late evening sunshine it went.

The rear 1/4 panel I'd sprayed wasn't quite a good match, new rattle can paint was a shade dark. As I'd still got plenty left I thought i'd attempt to blow the rear door in to blend the colours out. Plan was going well until I rubbed through nearer the front door so would have to spray the basecoat further along than I wanted to :(

Nice bit of alfresco basecoat spraying, the thick layer of dust and dirt will stop any potential overspray from the really low pressure the rattle cans give off so no need to sheet the whole car.

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Note there is only lacquer overspray on the front portion, rear end I'd sprayed at the 1/4 panel so no edge to edge issues anticipated...

As predicted though blowing the basecoat so far forward didn't help me sits' not as smooth a transition as I'd hoped to do. I could carry on and do the front door and wing but it's good enough, tidied it up enough. If I keep the car I'll most likely do a proper full respray sometime.

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Happy enough with my evenings progress, the 155 is another step closer to being back out there.
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Looking good Kev.
I haven't a clue with electrics mate. If it doesn't work when plugged together i is time to call for help. :oops: :D

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I've enough knowledge on electrics to be dangerous mate :D Just enough to have a go, not enough to know exactly what I'm doing :roll:


Had a great gift today thanks to my good mate Paul, the 33 owner.

Thanks again mate, I'm sure they will suit the car nicely 8-)
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Christmas early !! 8-)

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Mixed bag this afternoon with the 155.

Started off going through the brakes, discs and pads removed for cleaning and inspection all round. Happy that all calipers are in good order, all bleed nipples came out very nicely, makes a change! Front pads need renewing, discs seem OK but I'll know for sure once I can drive it.

I'd changed a few brake pipes mostly around the rear end when the axle was off. A full length one needed changing so once all the discs etc were back on it went over the pit.
How come the brake pipes that always need changing go on for ever all around the back of the engine? :(

Bleeding though was another story. 3 corners went well but the n/s/r would not get any fluid through. Working back from the caliper to find the fluid I realised the brake compensator was at fault, inner mechanism for that side was jammed closed. Under the rubber cover it became obvious that this unit is beyond saving, thick with rust :(

Didn't rate my chances of finding a new one so hoped I'd find a serviceable used one.
A bit of digging online revealed it is actually the same compensator as fitted to quite a few Alfa/Lancia/Fiat cars inc the coupe.
Managed to find a brand new Bosch one for £57 delivered!
Bargain!!


As I couldn't yet get to drive the 155 I consoled myself with the new rims as donated by my mate Paul, I actually think they suit the car great, even more than on his 33! 8-)

I've now started to put all the interior back in place in the boot etc, looking forward to being able to give it a good wash and polish soon....
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