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1980 Sud Super
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:42 am
by rsfruitbat
Morning all,
Ive been told that Sud Supers all had brown dashboards?
Can anyone confirm if this is correct?
Car is Posillipo blue with a brown carpet. but has a black dashboard and door cards.
It also has the bluey grey background dials and chrome stalks
rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:56 pm
by rsfruitbat
Hi All
Same car, different "opportunity".
Can anyone advise on the best place to find a reasonably accurate wiring diagram?
Going through the various iterations none of them seems accurate. I can find bits of them which seem correct but in the main none of them inspire any confidence.
Any suggestions
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:02 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Ade. I can possibly help. Iโve sent you a text . Lou
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:29 pm
by rsfruitbat
Thanks Lou
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:05 pm
by rsfruitbat
Hi everyone
Just resurrecting this thread
Still got this car. Ended up doing a load of engine bay paintwork. Not from rust but previous owner had coated it with something and it looked awful.
Just started to refit wiring and starting to sort out drive train.
Got a 1350 single carb to go in but if the mood takes me could fit anything.
Once it's working and reliability is to offer it for sale to make room for my next project, resurrecting an Alfa Sprint Trofeo.
Will try and start posting a bit more regularly and share the challenges!!!
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:07 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
We need pics Ade.
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:24 pm
by junior
Good to hear you have persisted with it. Sounds like a lot more work than you originally thought ?
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:13 pm
by rsfruitbat
It certainly has been. It was supposed to be a quick flip.
My problem is i f I'm not happy with something I can't ignore it.
That's why it's ended up being a complete mechanical strip and rebuild. The good thing is the shell is really solid.
Not that technically minded but if I can sort out posting photos your wish will be My command.
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:17 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
you can email photos to me and Iโll post on your behalf if that helps. (I do that for Alfadave from time to time)
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:57 pm
by rsfruitbat
That would be great if you didn't mind Loo.
Email or WhatsApp ?
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:50 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
WhatsApp Iโd fine Ade
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:02 am
by LooLooSud33Spider
Posted for Ade.
I think these are all before pictures.
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:56 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:50 pm
by Kegsti66
So is the twin carb engine a 1.7 ?.
Would that head be ok with new valves and guides or would there be other damage?
Looks the same colour my Sud started out with.
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:05 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:07 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:35 pm
by rsfruitbat
Thanks Loo
The car came with a 1.7 twin carb that hadn't run in 20yrs. Turned over ok though. It was only when I tried to time everything up to do the chambers I found out timing was all wrong. Took the head off and found the bent valves.
At the moment plan is to put a single carb 1350 back in. I have the option of 1490 fast road engine, 1600 rally engine, 1712 8 valve. I've probably got enough bits to build a 16v if someone was that keen.
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:30 pm
by rsfruitbat
Hi all
Quick update.
Electrics parked at the moment whilst I sort out engine.
1350 engine I had turned out needed a rebuild. Bores worn so new pistons, block chemical dip to clean all the gunk out and a light skin on both heads and faces to give the new head gaskets the best chance. Luckily crank was ok so just had a polish and going to fit new bearings.
Got most of the parts back now so starting the reassembly process.
Block painted and awaiting new core plugs.
Lapping valves in then fitting cams into cam carriers then onto heads.
Once those done bottom end to be assembled.
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:01 pm
by rsfruitbat
Anyone know here I can get some standard main bearings?
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:35 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
I might have some
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:26 pm
by Kegsti66
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:03 pm
by rsfruitbat
I did contact the seller about those but he couldn't tell whether they are std or not. I had no luck with the part number.
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:22 pm
by Veesix75
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:39 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Sorry the delay in checking Ade. Iโll have a butchers in my cupboard after lunch
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:55 pm
by rsfruitbat
Thanks Lou
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:54 pm
by rsfruitbat
All sorted now I think. Thanks gents
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:47 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
That is good news. Ade
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:58 pm
by rsfruitbat
Hi All
Quick update.
Had a bit of a nightmare last weekend.Fitted crank into the block. Came to put new pistons onto con rods and realised that the new pistons didn't have any circlip grooves.
Ended up having to go back to My machine shop and they put some circlip groove s in for me.s
Got them back yesterday so managed to build rest of bottom end built up.
While pistons were away thought I would have a look at cleaning the carb. It's a twinchoke solex.
First thing was the choke butterfly was bent. Looked like some bits were missing. Spindles didn't look brilliant. Having had a chat with Lou she had a replacement she was happy to part with. Thanks Lou.
Plan is to source a rebuild kit just in case.
Next step is to continue building the engine up and get it installed.
Rsfruitbat
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:23 pm
by alfadave
What make of pistons?!!
Re: 1980 Sud Super
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:35 pm
by rsfruitbat
They are in an AE box I think