Crankshaft rear seal

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Harry_p
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Crankshaft rear seal

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Does anyone have, or can anyone easily find out a part number for the rear crankshaft seal (transmission end ) for an alfasud?

It’s a 1980 late s2 with 1500 single carb engine.

Pretty sure my clutch issue is due to oil contamination, I’ve got a clutch on the way, have a spare gearbox if it’s the gearbox end, but would like a rear seal handy if possible.

An Alfa part number for cross reference or a corteco part number would be great so I can try and track one down locally.

The usually eBay parts searching brings up lots of different options and I’d rather now to the superior knowledge of the experts on here.

Many thanks for any help / advice.
Italian: ‘69 fiat 850 saloon, ‘80 alfasud super, 2012 Mito multiair 135
German: ‘72 VW dormobile camper, ‘87 Mk2 GTi 8v, ‘89 e30 m3, ‘96 e36 m3 evo saloon, ‘98 e36 318ti compact sport, ‘06 merc clk350
British: ‘94 metro gti 1.8, ‘91 metro 1.1c

alfadave
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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Experts at Alfashop, and Sudshop should help you?

justsuds
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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Alfa part no. 60503131, Corteco part no. 12010701, - I've plenty in stock, and special price to forum members !
Cheers, John.

alfadave
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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How could I not mention the expert at Justsuds!

Harry_p
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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Have just been in touch, weather isn’t looking too friendly this weekend anyway so it’s lost the urgency 😂
Italian: ‘69 fiat 850 saloon, ‘80 alfasud super, 2012 Mito multiair 135
German: ‘72 VW dormobile camper, ‘87 Mk2 GTi 8v, ‘89 e30 m3, ‘96 e36 m3 evo saloon, ‘98 e36 318ti compact sport, ‘06 merc clk350
British: ‘94 metro gti 1.8, ‘91 metro 1.1c

sudboy1490
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

Post by sudboy1490 »

Harry, be sure to check for a wear mark on the crank surface where the seal sits. This can be the reason for a seal failing so bad it contaminates the clutch. Iv had this happen with a new engine build recently. I got round it by removing the engine and putting another rear seal in but not tapping it fully home (leaving it about 2mm out) so that the seal sits on a fresh part of the crank. I put gasket sealant round the outer surface of the seal for extra peace of mind.

Colin

Harry_p
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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I’ve had a ‘fun’ weekend doing the clutch, turns out the seals are fine, the oil I could see is dribbling from elsewhere. Still think it would be hand to have some bits spare in case there’s a next time.

Annoyingly there’s nothing obviously wrong with the clutch I took out, maybe the springs in the pressure plate had just gone weak.

Managed to get a few other ‘while you’re there’ jobs done including the gearbox hanger mount, and a couple of mods to the gear linkage and tail shaft bushes to tighten them up a bit. Drives far better with no horrible lurching on and off the throttle and the gear change is less like trying to stir a bowl of custard.

Managed to scrape most of the skin off the back of my hands getting that bleedin clutch slave cylinder clip back in, worst bit of the job by far! Should have used a brain cell and cable tied the pin in place while taking the box out!

Measured up the exhaust to order the bits and make a stainless one as the next job too.
Italian: ‘69 fiat 850 saloon, ‘80 alfasud super, 2012 Mito multiair 135
German: ‘72 VW dormobile camper, ‘87 Mk2 GTi 8v, ‘89 e30 m3, ‘96 e36 m3 evo saloon, ‘98 e36 318ti compact sport, ‘06 merc clk350
British: ‘94 metro gti 1.8, ‘91 metro 1.1c

alfadave
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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Sounds like you dropped the complete engine and gearbox, and then split them?

I understand that you can avoid removing the clutch slave, and radiator, by simply tilting the whole unit back.

Harry_p
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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No, I did just the gearbox, but when putting it back on didn’t realise the pin had popped out the end of the slave, so rather than wrestle the gearbox back off far enough to realign it I popped off the circlip to slide the slave back not realising what a battle it would be to get back on.

Like many other jobs, I could do the whole thing in a fraction of the time next time. Not that I’d be in a rush to do it!
Italian: ‘69 fiat 850 saloon, ‘80 alfasud super, 2012 Mito multiair 135
German: ‘72 VW dormobile camper, ‘87 Mk2 GTi 8v, ‘89 e30 m3, ‘96 e36 m3 evo saloon, ‘98 e36 318ti compact sport, ‘06 merc clk350
British: ‘94 metro gti 1.8, ‘91 metro 1.1c

alfadave
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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Have a look at Marlow Suds post July 25 2016. Page 20 of this section

Harry_p
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

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It seems my time spent fighting the clip and shredding my hands would have been better used doing more research on this forum!

It really didn’t help that I couldn’t find my circlip plairs so had to modify some 90 degree needle nose ones. Decided it was never going to fit without fouling the bell housing so ended up loosening all the gearbox fixings again and levering it back far enough to get the clip on. Never thought to push the slave out again to slip the clip in the slot...
Italian: ‘69 fiat 850 saloon, ‘80 alfasud super, 2012 Mito multiair 135
German: ‘72 VW dormobile camper, ‘87 Mk2 GTi 8v, ‘89 e30 m3, ‘96 e36 m3 evo saloon, ‘98 e36 318ti compact sport, ‘06 merc clk350
British: ‘94 metro gti 1.8, ‘91 metro 1.1c

alfadave
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Re: Crankshaft rear seal

Post by alfadave »

I've been there before!
Simple really......fit the circlip before the slave.

I've done the opposite lots of times and struggled!

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