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Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:05 am

Hi Guys,
Just waiting to get on a flight to look at this car today:

Got to dash.

Brgds
Simon

88liam · Post by **88liam** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:25 am

Hi Simon,

Fiat 131? 2000 tc

Liam

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:38 pm

Hi Liam,
Very close. It's a Fiat 131 Abarth Volumetrico. Same supercharger as the Lancia 037 Rally.

Brgds
Simon

Veesix75 · Post by **Veesix75** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:46 pm

Cmon Simon. We need more photos......

I suspect we all like the 131, especially Abarth version.

My very first car was a 131 mirafiori........a short lived relationship which led me into Sud's.

I hope it's to your taste and you bring it home with you, good luck....

Kegsti66 · Post by **Kegsti66** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:21 pm

Veesix75 wrote:Cmon Simon. We need more photos......

I suspect we all like the 131, especially Abarth version.

I hope it's to your taste and you bring it home with you, good luck....

Simon, you know there is a lot of love on here for the 131.
Good luck, that is a rare beast.

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:12 pm

Hi Guys,
I don't seem to be able to upload any photos at the minute.
Bought the car. I think it will be very quick.
Will upload shots as soon as I can.
Brgds
Simon

Kegsti66 · Post by **Kegsti66** » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:09 am

Well done !! can't wait to see it.

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:53 am

Here you go guys:

Kegsti66 · Post by **Kegsti66** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:07 pm

Looks great Simon, and it looks like you have found an Aladin's cave of gems.
Any idea how many were built ?
Thanks for sharing, look forward to seeing it in the metal.

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:27 pm

Hi Keith,
There were 25 two door cars based on the 131 racing and 200 four door cars.
I am not sure how many cars in the museum near Antwerp. 200-300?
I like this one:

88liam · Post by **88liam** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:26 pm

Hi Simon,

Me too,

Great write up inNovember 2010 retro cars , Modified 71 Fiat Dino Coupe,

Will post some pics of article tomorrow,

Liam

KevJTD · Post by **KevJTD** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:10 pm

looks fab Simon, did wonder if it had anything in common with the beta volume engine wise...

can't wait to see it.

bet shrew loves the rack of rims

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:58 pm

Hi Kev,
There was a 131 Rally car there with a volumex blower on it and the standard carb setup producing 200bhp:

The volumex blower is smaller. Here is the Volumetrico:

The pulley sizes suggest the Volumex spins faster?
Volumex pulley:

Volumetrico pulley:

The Volumetrico used on the first Lancia 037 group B rally car was a standard carb setup and the 2litre twin cam produced 240bhp.
That's what I want!
Brgds
Simon

KevJTD · Post by **KevJTD** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:17 pm

037 is probably my favourite rally Lancia of all time, even more so than 038 (delta S4) really.
such a poetic thing to watch dance around on the stages

PETROLHEAD · Post by **PETROLHEAD** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:19 pm

Excellent Simon!

I'm a big 131 fan, always have been, and can't wait to see and learn more of the plans.

I am 100% sure that i'm not alone, so please make sure to keep a good thread going here on CAF, where i'm sure you'll find as much love and attention for it as you would on a Fiat forum!

Kegsti66 · Post by **Kegsti66** » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:44 pm

petrolhead wrote:
I am 100% sure that i'm not alone, so please make sure to keep a good thread going here on CAF,!

you're not mate.

Dino is nice and I am quite fond of the Samantha next to it

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:41 pm

Hi guys,
More museum pics:

Brgds
Simon

Kegsti66 · Post by **Kegsti66** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:29 pm

Fantastic place Simon.

Spacenut · Post by **Spacenut** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:18 pm

KevJTD wrote:037 is probably my favourite rally Lancia of all time, even more so than 038 (delta S4) really.
such a poetic thing to watch dance around on the stages

I couldn't agree more!

Inline Lampredi twin cam, supercharger and ZF transaxle, superb!

...Which reminds me, I need to upload my pictures from Auto Italia - full race Lancia 037, oooooh yes

Spacenut · Post by **Spacenut** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:23 pm

Kegsti66 wrote:
petrolhead wrote:
I am 100% sure that i'm not alone, so please make sure to keep a good thread going here on CAF,!

you're not mate.

Dino is nice and I am quite fond of the Samantha next to it

Me too. And the doors are the same as a Jensen Interceptor, so no problem getting spares!

Always preferred the 206 Dino coupe - must be the hexagon grille

...Which reminds me, I must upload my Auto Italia pictures - Dino 206 coupe? Oooooooooh yes...

KevJTD · Post by **KevJTD** » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:50 pm

just been reading an article in the latest auto italia magazine about the 037, I never realised that the options when designing a rally winner was actually a consideration given to using the ritmo (strada) and giving it a mid engine layout similar to the Renault 5 turbo or a delta with front engine rear drive like the 131 but they settled on the 037 rally , which i'm glad they did really

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:55 am

Kegsti66 wrote:Fantastic place Simon.

Hi Keith,
It's the Abarth Museum at Lire, Belgium if you want to visit.
All the best,
Simon

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:56 am

Hi Kev,
I found the details you have raised in a really good book I bought at the museum:

Brgds
Simon

Kermit · Post by **Kermit** » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:00 pm

KevJTD wrote:037 is probably my favourite rally Lancia of all time, even more so than 038 (delta S4) really.
such a poetic thing to watch dance around on the stages

Like this one ??

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Also got a short video of it going up Prescott hill in Cheltenham if anyone can let me know how to add it (without having to post it of YouTube !!

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:31 pm

I like this video and Chris Harris loves the 037.

https://youtu.be/mXgWWNJVdYA

Brgds,
Simon

Kegsti66 · Post by **Kegsti66** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:19 pm

Great video Simon.
037 looks really mean in carbon. Pity we didn't the 131 in anger but S4 wasn' t hanging about .
Cheers.

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:39 pm

Hi Keith,

What struck me about the 037 in the video was firstly the weird engine noise but then how incredibly quick it is. The video suggested to me that it is actually so quick that it is beyond the capabilities of even the very best drivers. The 037 driver seemed to morph into an 80 year old man when he was driving it and then as soon as he stops he is back in his 40's!

The Stratos by comparison seems positively pedestrian. Lots of lovely noise but definitely not of the same generation. Worlds apart.

All the best,
Simon

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:55 pm

I have had it on very good authority today that fitting these parts on the Volumetrico will give me an extra 30bhp. From 140bhp to 170bhp. Massive gain for limited spend.

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I will need a very effective intake filter to prevent the supercharger rotors getting scuffed and ruining its efficiency.

Brgds,
Simon

Marlow Sud · Post by **Marlow Sud** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:34 pm

Hi Guys,

The car arrived in the UK today.
It was running but on one or two cylinders and back firing.
We drained the fuel. Old fuel on the left, new fuel on the right.

It started easily and after about 3 mins running it was absolutely fine.

This is the carb/supercharger setup:

Brgds
Simon

Veesix75 · Post by **Veesix75** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:58 pm

That fuel looks like the by product of 10 pints of lager the morning after.....

What are the plans Simon, spill the beans........

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