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Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:13 pm
by Oxfordshire driver
A 4 second saving...hold the lettuce :!:

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:09 pm
by KevJTD
blimey, that's a nasty break, could have been a real disaster without available run-off space :o

all this extra pace you're now putting through it, fantastic lap time improvement 8-)

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:05 pm
by Veesix75
Wow....I'll be checking mine !

It's the front arm that usually cracks, worth checking those for fatigue.

That's a great lap time, my best is 1:43 way back in 2007.

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:07 pm
by Kegsti66
:o Bloody 'ell Simon, you don't do anything by half !!
Cracking results (including the repair)
Team Tangerine will be over Sunday. 8-)

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:34 am
by Marlow Sud
Hi guys,
Some things put a smile on your face beyond all importance.
My spare wheels came back from refurb today, cracking job. While being diamond cut they have managed to keep the wheel size and Speedline name.
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Should look great on the car.

Brgds
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:32 pm
by Veesix75
Very nice.....just need to keep off those nasty sausage kerbs :D

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:02 pm
by Kegsti66
Lovely job done there Simon.
They look very smart.

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 9:30 pm
by Marlow Sud
Hi Guys,
There was a spare engine with the Trofeo and I was not sure what it was.
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I took the cylinder head off and it is 1512cc and it looks like it is high compression and has been gas flowed and polished but standard valves at 38/33mm?
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Everything looks overhauled with new pistons, polished rods and polished crank plus a baffled sump.
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Might be wise to fit some ARP big end bolts though.

Brgds
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:55 am
by Veesix75
Are the Pistons std and do the cams look reprofiled ? 1512cc is +4 I think.

I have a 1700 engine with 38mm valves, it gave more torque but a similar top end power to 40mm but that was mild tune not race.

My other 1500 engine is all std components, I think 40mm valves and reprofiled cams and that gave good top end power so you probably still have a powerful engine there.

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:25 am
by Marlow Sud
Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. The pistons are stamped 84.6mm
I don't know what a re-profiled cam would look like? The valve lift is 9mm if that helps.
I have been trying to work out the compression ratio but I am getting awfully high figures. Back to the numbers to try again.

Brgds,
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:51 am
by Veesix75
+6mm in that case, got my maths wrong!

I can't remember what std lift is, but I know some reprofiled cams that were described as full race were well over 10, I think 10.9.

I have two old sets, one single lobe and one twin lobe. I'll see if I can dig them out as I'm sure they are stamped....however the high tens are what I remember

Having said that, the lift gives power but no end low like the trofeo, so just like the SC Sud, an all rounder still drives very well.

Just a random document.

http://www.jdmcars.com/tech/lift_duration.pdf

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 12:32 pm
by Marlow Sud
Thanks Tim.
I read that bigger valves and more valve lift both increase the flow rate in the head linearly up to a limit of course.

My latest calculations come out with a compression ratio of 10.8 : 1 which I reckon is not far out.
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Brgds,
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 9:32 pm
by Spacenut
Those cams look proper high-lifty to me. Base circle diameter looks smaller than stock, so may be re-profiled lobes rather than a new forging.

But very nice all the same - proper old skool engineering. Very envious 8-)

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:53 pm
by Marlow Sud
Hi Lauren,
Just ordered a king size mattress plastic bag and 4 x 1kg bags of desiccant.
Engine and desiccant in the bag.
Suck out all the air with a vacuum cleaner and twist the bag neck and ty-wrap the neck back on itself to seal the evacuated bag.
Should keep the engine nice and corrosion free while in storage. I will probably re-oil the camshafts and cylinder bores first.
Brgds
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:22 pm
by KevJTD
Marlow Sud wrote:Hi Lauren,
Just ordered a king size mattress plastic bag and 4 x 1kg bags of desiccant.
Engine and desiccant in the bag.
Suck out all the air with a vacuum cleaner and twist the bag neck and ty-wrap the neck back on itself to seal the evacuated bag.
Should keep the engine nice and corrosion free while in storage. I will probably re-oil the camshafts and cylinder bores first.
Brgds
Simon
You know what, I've always wondered about the best way to store a freshly built engine.
That's a great idea :)
Can see the integrale engine build being done this Winter now..... ;)

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:49 pm
by Marlow Sud
I quite like this. I think I should make a video :shock:

https://vimeo.com/163817209

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:47 pm
by Veesix75
Very good.....except I wouldn't be letting it get gravel rash on that lane.

Maybe we should hire Blyton for a day and make a combined video, racers and road goers .

In fact I'm checking hire costs now (which have probably quintupled since ginetta bought it)

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:56 pm
by Veesix75
Boo.....the track hire link has been disabled.

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:16 pm
by Ted27sud
We've all heard that old chestnut 'Drive it like you've stolen it' haven't we? Does that include Trofeo Alfasuds as well.........? :D :D
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Taken from this month's Motor Sport magazine.
Ted

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:49 pm
by rsfruitbat
i've got some knobblies if anyone ones to borrow them :D

rsfruitbat

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:05 pm
by Marlow Sud
What you have to do to get in Motorsport Magazine! :oops:

Brgds,
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:50 pm
by Kegsti66
You need to ask them for a copy of that Simon. Fantastic shot, even if you weren't enjoying the moment :D

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:53 pm
by Marlow Sud
Good idea Keith. I will ask them now.

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:31 pm
by justsuds
Great picture !
John.

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:16 am
by KevJTD
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leading the way in Novembers auto italia magazine ;)

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:55 pm
by Marlow Sud
That tells a story Kev.
I am sideways in the gravel and Ted is going round Ferraris.

Nice one. Like that picture much better.

All the best,
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:23 pm
by Marlow Sud
Hi Guys,

Just been sent some pictures from Brands Hatch.
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Silverstone this weekend for the final two races of this season.

Brgds,
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:46 pm
by Kegsti66
Good picture Simon.
We plan to come over on Sunday.

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:06 pm
by Marlow Sud
Excellent. I look forward to seeing you. We have
Alfasud SC, Alfasud Sprint, Trofeo and Golf.
Saturday looks wet.

All the best,
Simon

Re: 1974 Alfasud Trofeo

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:39 pm
by BS25
Hi Simon,

Good luck to you all down at Silverstone - I'll follow progress on TSL. Have fun!